Summary Frankenstein

What we enjoyed about the book:

  • convoluted narrative situation, embedded stories, framing device
  • Waltons is a “massive Frankenstein stan”
  • unreliable narrators are great
  • “I liked it” despite it being a classic
  • super influential
  • timeless, so many retellings
  • different than imagined –> adaptations have a huge influence
  • very descriptive, good nature / emotion descriptions
  • transcends the idea of monster vs. good person
  • creature = monster? Victor = monster? creature = victim? –> blurred lines
  • change of how we like / perceive characters interesting
  • old book but writing style not too old fashioned
  • more layers / questions what we know
  • limits of science
  • creature / creator, hubris
  • exciting Gothic tale
  • transcends the limits of the genre
  • “such an iconic story”
  • Mother of Scifi just slays
  • subtexts: anticolonial, vegetarian, feminist
  • impressive
  • psychological dimension fascinating
  • 1930s movie not like the book at all
  • teenage angst novel
  • What if Frankenstein raised the creature properly? Daddy Issues TM
  • Do we create our own monsters?
  • theatre adaptation with Benedict Cumberbatch great
  • radical
  • man giving birth to a creature
  • queer reading so cool
  • scope fascinating: Cologne, the Rhine, Italy, Arctic circle
  • weird that he’s so shocked by the creature, Frankenstein made it???
  • movie adaptations messing with our head
  • Monster Theory!

What we discussed / disliked:

  • Romantic English bit annoying
  • very stupid Gothic idea: monster finds books in forest? Seriously?
  • undefined Middle Eastern problematic, half Christian so good? Wild.
  • backstory of French revolution weak
  • travel log format annoying to some
  • nobody writes letters like this, honestly
  • Frankenstein & Walton: gay?
  • scientification visible but details wonky
  • did Viktor give the creature genitals? Envy?
  • cottage philosophers romanticised af
  • Viktor is just clueless and runs away from his problems
  • very buff creature (OH ROCKY)
  • super rich people problems in parts
  • Daddy Issues TM
  • monster just needed a pet and a hug to be ok-ish?

Ratings (in weird categories):

  • 5/5 creepy teachers of ancient knowledge for a classic
  • 3/5 classics hidden in a random tree: not easy to read, too many layers?
  • 4/5 moving to a different country to outrun your problems: “if it had been a 5 star three years aago, I would’ve remembered more”; important book
  • 4/5 brutally but unsurprisingly murdered family members: “as a classic it was really good and easy to enjoy”
  • 4/5 brides for his harem: Open questions, who made the monster the way he was? Frankenstein too much, just trying tro justify his bullshit
  • 4.5/5 body parts: influence on scifi and Gothic so cool, approachable for a classic, fascinating narrative situation, Mary Shelley just slays
  • 4/5 major daddy issues: writing style & Viktor annoying, skipped paragraphs
  • STILL A BETER LOVE STORY THAN TWILIGHT
  • 4/5 warm hugs for the creature: radical themes, ahead of its time, still relevant today, pacing off

Other books we talked about:

  • Children Series by Tchaikovsky was recommended
  • China Mieville: Looking for Jack
  • Endgame by Beckett
  • Audiobook of “In the Life of Puppets” by Klune
  • “Equal Rites” by Terry Pratchett
  • “Island of Doctor Moreau” by H.G. Wells + “Daughtrer of Doctor Moreau”
  • November new Baldree cosy fantasy book coming ❤

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