What did you like about the book?
- Nothing was like it seemed
- Full of surprises
- “I liked that nobody was really likable”
- Discussed what makes a person a person and what makes us human
- Borne being really weird, unclear what he is à you still feel for him
- “I was really rooting for him all the time”
- Survival but then it is about humanity, how human are we still?
- Moral dilemmas, philosophical dimension great
- Rachel’s name is funny given the dystopian setting and her background
- Not entirely about R. being a mother figure for B.
- People are lying all the time, lying about omission, what is reality
- If you take anything out of the book out of context, everything sounds insane and absurd
- You get used to the weirdness, “yeah that’s Mort”
- “You vibe with the chaos”
- Easy to follow the story despite the weirdness
- Narrative structure quite accessible
- Explanations followed
- Setting in general was cool, just the city
- Very atmospheric
- Craving connection, no authority, no way out
- Borne a bit like Baby Yoda 😀
- Socio-economic commentary of the novel nice
- “The Company” could stand for almost everything that should be criticised
- City can also stand for everything else, unclear if there are even other cities
- Rachel’s memories as a refugee, you can piece everything together
- No moral high ground, moral ambiguity brilliant
- B. is a murderer, makes R. question everything
- New world order, humans need to survive and find a new place
- “Would I even want to survive in the city any more?”
- Writing style partly enjoyable
- R. and W.’s relationship slightly unhealthy but it also worked against the odds
- Decisions in the novel made out of a desire to control
- Trying to find meaning in a meaningless world: mother figure or controlling Borne? Shape him as I see fit?
- Estrangement from one’s child a major theme
- Monsters and monstrosity as a key theme
- Ending was nice, planet can recover if we stop meddling so much, no control, no tyrant figure needed, people can start working together again, find trust and hope again
- Epic boss fight bit random but nice
- Open questions nice
What we discussed:
- Writing style not to everybody’s liking
- Pacing until ending really good but then way too rushed
- Mort is dead and it starts raining and everything bad is washed away à too weird
- Description of the boss fight made no sense because Mort was such a giant and Borne might’ve been bus-sized
- How did Mort become so fucked up?
- Without audiobook, some wouldn’t have finished the book
- Too character-driven
- Tension, potential for something to happen, only at the end
- More action in between needed
- More background information would’ve been nice, more solid world building, character backgrounds à others like that one can use one’s own ideas to fill the gaps
- How did they become refugees?
- “different dimension”, RANDOM, nah
- Magician not used enough à what was her goal? Unclear motivation
- Borne not important in the end any more, why
- Covers partly weird, interesting
- Different genre expectations
- Wick is an android, being “born”, “becoming”, “being”
- Easy to space out with this story
- Suddenly Rachel adopted children, weird. Build a family contrasts with her “everybody for themselves”
- Extreme motherhood also annoying
- Desire to take care of Borne not out of a desire for motherhood à control
- Rushed ending, showing Rachel’s healing process would’ve been good #
Ratings:
5/5 giant bears fighting because the novel felt like a fever dream (would not work if I reread it)
3/5 feral children
3/5 dead astronauts
“weird parts intrigued me”
4/5 deadly bears “it gave me a lot to think about beyond the surface level of the story”